Sunday, January 19, 2014

Mana Ashida's drama "Ashita, Mama ga inai" receives complaints and is requested to be cancelled


1: パニックスイッチφ ★ 2014/01/16(木) 20:36:00.69 ID:???0
Jikei Hospital in Kumamoto city held a press conference on the 16th and called for the cancellation of the drama Ashita, Mama ga inai, citing "violation of human rights" as the drama "gives a misinterpretation and is prejudiced against the children and the staff who are working in these child care institutions".

The drama is about children in an orphanage who are longing for the love and protection of mothers and is gathering a lot of attention, thanks to the collaboration of child actors Mana Ashida and Rio Suzuki.

Jikei hospital is the only hospital in Japan which has a child care facility "Kounotorinoyurikago" that receives newborns which the parents could not afford to raise.

In the drama, Ashida is called "post", which according to the hospital is "mental and spiritual abuse, and a violation of human rights".

They also cited: "The institutional staff in the drama are treating the children harshly, and are giving more emphasis to the crying scenes which is too unrealistic, and will lead to misunderstandings, prejudice and discrimination". This is purported to be the scene where the head of the institution in the drama played by Hiroshi Mikami said, "You can start off by 'eating' the ones who are crying", and "You kids are similar to dogs in a pet shop". The hospital will be officially requesting for the cancellation and explanation of production details in the near future.

Source: http://www.nikkansports.com/entertainment/news/f-et-tp0-20140116-1244860.html



明日、ママがいない
http://xn--ddkg7dzbn8742f.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/matsuda.jpgno title






1: パニックスイッチφ ★ 2014/01/16(木) 20:36:00.69 ID:???0
明日、ママがいない相関図
明日、ママがいない芦田愛菜
明日、ママがいない鈴木梨央
681: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:59:39.63 ID:9pwV4z1z0
「お前らは犬や猫と一緒だから可愛く振舞わないと貰い手がない」
"You kids are similar to dogs and cats so no one will take you in if you don't act cute"
32: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 20:42:37.37 ID:j7cXq0lA0
日テレ側より相手にしない宣言きました~
NTV just gave their reponse, and they're not going to be bothered by this


 日テレ側は「最後までご覧いただきたい」

熊本市の慈恵病院は、15日にスタートした日本テレビ系ドラマ「明日、ママがいない」(水曜午後10時)について、放送中止を申し入れると会見で明らかにした。この件に関する日本テレビ総合広報部のコメン

トは以下の通り。

 当社のドラマ『明日、ママがいない』について、慈恵病院が会見を行われたことは承知しております。なお、このドラマでは子供たちの心根の純粋さや強さ、たくましさを全面に表し、子供たちの視点から『愛情とは

何か』をいうことを描く趣旨のもと、子供たちを愛する思いも真摯(しんし)に描いていきたいと思っております。是非、最後までご覧いただきたいと思います。

NTV: "Please watch this drama until the end"

NTV's public relations released their comment regarding Jikei Hospital's press conference and intentions to have the drama cancelled.

We understand that Jikei Hospital had a press conference concering the drama Ashita, Mama ga inai. However, this drama intends to show the pureness and sincerity of children's hearts, and will bring forward their strengths as we try to sincerely express "what love and affection is" from the perspective of the children, and how to love these children in return. We would appreciate it if you could watch this drama until the end.

Source: http://www.nikkansports.com/entertainment/news/f-et-tp0-20140116-1244949.html

70: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 20:48:45.03 ID:0H6yE8JNO
>>32
応援するぞ!日テレ!頑張れ!
スポンサーなしでも突っ走れ!
I'm rooting for you NTV! Do your best!
Keep at it even if you don't have any sponsors!
198: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:07:24.24 ID:Y7RulTG60
>>32
まあドラマ内の施設に虐待なんかないし
三上の教育もそこら辺のバカ親なんかよりよほど筋通ってるし問題ないわな
Well, there aren't any maltreatment cases within the facility in the drama, and Mikami's educational method is much more reasonable than that of some of the stupid parents out there
877: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 22:29:52.79 ID:CMrWAoHK0
>>32
最初は威勢がいいけど、スポンサーやら何やらに言われて最後は打ち切るのが
テレビの常道。
They may be able to act big now, but once the sponsors start complaining, they'll have no choice but to cancel the show. That's the regular course for TV.
75: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 20:49:22.88 ID:r06TSaUo0
声高にギャアギャア喚く奴が増えたよな
アホに配慮ばっかしてるから、テレビもつまらなくなってるんだよ
The number of guys who start raising their voices and complain like this has increased, huh.
TV's becoming much more boring because they all need to be considerate towards all these fools.
76: 達(アンチ前田敦子) 2014/01/16(木) 20:49:52.39 ID:vXlWf/m/0
今クールのドラマでは、一番面白いというか良かった。
何でもかんでも規制するのはどうかと思うよ。
It's the best drama this season, it was good.
I'm not too fond of the idea of putting restrictions to everything and anything like this.
280: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:16:56.84 ID:Z8oYAdR20
結局、ドラマは面白かったの?
So was the drama any good?
298: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:18:40.50 ID:LLbLJZR40
>>280
間違いなく今季ナンバーワン
Undoubtedly number one this season
77: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 20:49:57.20 ID:Bq2Y7ncV0
芦田プロのあの演技見て抗議するって頭おかしい
They must be crazy for filing a complaint like this even after seeing Ashida-pro's acting
689: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 22:01:02.85 ID:pFKJLAOl0
まあ(子供を)犬の引き取りを例える脚本は確かにどうかと思うわ
その分リアルドキュメント風ではなく非現実的な演出に置き換えて
ドラマとして成立させないとな

けど芦田さんの演技がうますぎてリアルに振れ過ぎたねw
Well, I do think that there's something wrong with a screenplay that's comparing the children to dogs.
And because of that, they shouldn't make this seem like a realistic documentary, but instead make it as fictional as can be and treat this as a drama.
935: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 22:38:29.47 ID:Bq2Y7ncV0
改めて見返しても芦田プロの演技まじぱねえわ
Even after re-watching, Ashida-pro's acting truly is amazing
20: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 20:41:29.34 ID:jnFqgZKX0
こういう設定

名前を書いた紙切れ一枚だけ添えられてポスト(芦田愛菜)は捨てられた
顔も知らない親
親に愛される子供が一番幸せなのはわかってる
けどそれは叶わないから自ら親を捨てるために
親からもらった唯一の「名前」というものを捨て、ポストと自分に名前をつける
ポスト「絶対幸せになってやる!」 

This is the plot

"Post" (Mana Ashida) was abandoned, only with a piece of paper with her name written on it attached.
She doesn't know what her parents look like.
She knows that children who are loved by their parents are the happiest of all.
But she knows that she will never be able to achieve that, so in order for her to throw away the thoughts of her parents, she decides to throw away the only thing given to her, which is her name, and starts going by the name "Post".
Post: "I'll become happy no matter what!"


http://xn--ddkg7dzbn8742f.jp/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/matsuda.jpg
16: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 20:40:26.29 ID:z27YfgAT0
このタイトルって「芦田愛菜がいない」のダジャレなの?
Is the title a pun on "Ashida Mana ga inai"?
* (Mana Ashida isn't here)
362: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:24:17.82 ID:tWtSWdKf0
>>16
プロデューサーだか
最初からそれを狙ってタイトル付けてるとか誰がいってた
A producer or someone said that he was aiming for that when he put that kind of title
58: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 20:46:25.18 ID:ZgZEyIAq0
日テレは子役使ってえぐいことやらせるイメージあるわ
I've always had this impression that NTV makes child actors do harsh and crazy stuff
73: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 20:49:03.91 ID:wwR1m6eA0
>>58
志田未来に失禁させたりとか?
Like making Mirai Shida leak?
83: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 20:51:09.09 ID:5RvHsqdxP
なにテレビにムキになってんの?
Why are they getting so worked up with TV?
89: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 20:52:12.08 ID:s0Xb989r0
>>83
そりゃムキにもなるだろう。
赤ちゃんポスト=慈恵病院なんだから。
Of course.
Because the Baby hatch = Jikei Hospital.
96: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 20:53:18.67 ID:zCupnmrX0
抗議や要請などは別にやってもまったく問題はないし、当然の権利だ。
ただそれをもって局側が対処するかどうかはまぁ局側の判断になるけども、
今回の場合はとくに配慮しなくてもよいと思うけどもね。
There are no problems at all even if they file complaints or requests, they have that right after all.
It will depend on the TV station though if they plan on dealing with that, but I don't think they have to take this case too much into consideration.
316: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:19:30.64 ID:OhmXzl3yO
フィクションに目くじらたてるな!ていうが、慈恵のゆりかごは今でも常に子捨て施設って侮蔑の偏見とずっと戦い続けてるんだぞ。
おそらく匿名の脅迫も結構あるだろうし。
People may say that "You shouldn't raise your eyebrows on fiction!", but Jikei's Yurikago has kept on battling against insults and prejudice, even up to now. I'm sure that this institution still receives quite a lot of anonymous threats up to this day.
408: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:27:24.53 ID:nbLMjK5B0
ポストとあだ名付けられてる芦田は
馬鹿にされてないし、みんなをまとめるリーダー的存在なんだけどな
他の子供たちに起きる問題を助ける役目になる
Ashida who's nicknamed "Post" isn't being made fun of, and is the leader who pulls everyone up. She's also the one who helps solve the problems of the other children.
441: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:30:29.57 ID:VByt0KvX0
>>408
そういう問題じゃねーだろ
赤ちゃんポストに入れられた子供がその後、ろくでもない施設に送られるという部分が不快なんだろうよ
うちは決してそういう施設には預けない、と言いたい気持ちは、まあわかるわ
That's not the issue here.
They probably don't like the idea that the drama is showing how unpleasant life can be for the children who are left at the baby hatch as they might be sent to institutions like that. I do understand the hospital's stance here, as they're just trying to say that "We never hand over these children to orphanages like that". 
417: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:28:33.23 ID:K7wF/n3U0
これって録画して子供に見せてる馬鹿親ているのかな?
I wonder if there are any stupid parents who record this and show it to their children?
438: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:29:55.15 ID:KsOHQPY20
>>417
野島の脚本らしいから子供に理解できるかは判らんが、
話としてはよく出来てると思うよ。
This is Nojima's screenplay so I'm not sure if the children can comprehend it, but I do think the story is well written.
455: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:31:51.85 ID:gL1Idnve0
>>438
だから野島が直接書いたんじゃなくって、アニメ出身の脚本家を監修して書かせたの。
It's not Nojima who wrote it, he just supervised a scriptwriter who had anime roots.
516: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:38:53.57 ID:2L8cpkf40
>>455
逆だったのかよ
So it was the other way around?
548: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:42:16.47 ID:tWtSWdKf0
>>516
脚本 松田沙也

アニメ・ゲームの脚本書いてたらしい (※キャリアは6年程度)
ドラマ脚本はこれが初めて脚本監修に野島伸二
Screenplay: Saya Matsuda

She apparently wrote scripts for anime and games previously, and this is her first drama assignment. She's supervised by Shinji Nojima.
69 : 名無しさんにズームイン![] 投稿日:2014/01/15(水) 21:57:16.58 ID:PVi3BWxh [1/3回]
松田沙也
アニメ
PERSONA-trinity soul-
星を追う子ども(脚本協力)
言の葉の庭(脚本協力)

ゲーム
『涼宮ハルヒの追想』
『ぬらりひょんの孫~百鬼繚乱大戦~』
(ドラマはこれが初めて 脚本監修に野島伸二)

Saya Matsuda
Anime: PERSONA -trinity soul-, Hoshi wo ou kodomo (contributor), Koto no ha no niwa (contributor)
Game: The Reminiscences of Haruhi Suzumiya, Nurarihyon no Mago -Hyakki Ryouran Taisen-
761: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 22:10:29.73 ID:gL1Idnve0
>>548にあるけどドラマ脚本書くのは初めての松田沙也って人。
アニメ出身だが過去作品は深夜アニメや新海誠作品担当なので正直マイナー。
It's also said by >>548, but the script is written by first time writer Saya Matsuda. Her roots are in anime, but her past works are late night animes and the shows directed by Makoto Shinkai so she used to be minor.
772: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 22:11:54.24 ID:Ko00k1Oy0
大人たちがフィクションだからと正論並べても、
子役と同じ世代が見たら(人づて聞いたら)どう思うかはわからない。
親がアホだったり心が病んでる子なら都合よく解釈してイジメアイテムとして利用するかもね。
Adults may just dismiss it and say that it's just fiction, which is correct, but no one knows how the kids who are of the same age as the child actors would feel like. Children with stupid parents, or those who have ailing minds, might interpret it the wrong way and use it as a tool for their bullying.
858: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 22:25:43.29 ID:A/ifW+M80
病院がゆりかごを設置するとなったときにマスコミが使った蔑称が
赤ちゃんポストだから病院側の気持ちも分かる

フィクションだからと言ってもあの流れを利用してるのは明らかだし、
こうやって大真面目に怒ってくれる側も必要だわ
The discriminatory term which the media put on the hospital's yurikago facility was "baby post office" or baby hatch so I do get how the hospital feels. It may be fictional, but the drama evidently utilizes that trend, and there really is a need for someone to be extremely angry at this.
212: 名無しさん@恐縮です 2014/01/16(木) 21:09:06.29 ID:YXWbifcI0
みんな熱演だったし、来週も観たいんですけども。
Everyone acted their hearts out, and I still want to watch this next week.




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